I'm not sure if anyone still reads this; however, I came across an update from Joel Greenblatt himself that I thought might be of interest. I'd like to thank Value Investing News for pointing me to Andrew Tobias's site where this quote was found.
This is Joel Greenblatt's response to why the Magic Formula results have been poor so far:
"Each investor who picks 5 or 6 stocks every quarter will have varying results over the short term (meaning a couple of years). However, I gave a class on the results from the large cap model that I reported in the book. During that very successful 18-year period (basically doubling the market’s return), there was a point-to-point 4-year period and a totally non-overlapping 3-year period when the model did not outperform the market averages. That means there were long periods that the model did not beat the market. Yet, looking backward, it is very clear that the strategy (double the market’s return) was a good one. So...what can be learned by one person’s picking a few stocks over a year and a half? Nothing. It either makes sense to buy above average companies at below average prices or it doesn’t. If it does, that still means you need a 3 to 5 year horizon to bear that out."
Yes, I am still following the Magic Formula with awesome results through July of this year and awful results since.
Subscribe to:
Post Comments (Atom)
8 comments:
good to see a post. I have gone downhill so fast I don't want to post my graphs.
MG
MG,
I feel your pain. Blogging makes me less rational (more short-term in focus)so I haven't been very active. Did you get my e-mail a month or so ago about some arbitrage opportunities?
-Nick
Nick, not sure I remember your email. It might have been while I was on vacation. I find that blogging in a weird way keeps me honest. If I wasn't blogging (and fessing up) I'd probably be tempted to break the rules more.
MG
i'm having similar fantastic/horrible results with MFI since january, just to add to the pile. still sticking with it.
Nick,
You have a link to my site for a long time. However it is moving.
Could you change the link from investingeuro.com to www.investingeuro.blogspot.com.
I would be most gratefull
Hi, I just started investing with the Magic Formula a few weeks ago. Glad to see your blog!
The problem with this magic formula is that it does not prevent you from selecting losers. It's a pure statistic method which, as far as we are concerned, is open to further improvement.
Determining which stocks are undervalued or which are justly beaten up, is a very difficult task, which we believe is best executed by people who know the company very well, the insiders. Therefore, we track the insider tradings of the companies in the Top 25 list of the Magic Formula, and publish them on a regular base on this site:
http://magicformulainsidetraders.blogspot.com/
What's even more important about inside tradings is that when executives bought shares in their own companies, the stock tended to outperform the total market by 8.9% over the next 12 months. Conversely when they sold shares, the stock underperformed the market by 5.4% (Nejat Seyhun, a renowned professor and researcher in the field of insider trading at the University of Michigan).
Nick, now it's January 2008. Have the MFI results improved since your comment in September.
Fred in DC
Post a Comment